About This Episode
Dr. Mark Tager proves that consultation presence is not an inborn personality but an installable, teachable system. Part of the Business of Aesthetics podcast collection, Episode 290, “The Consult You Already Lost: Reading the Room, Killing “Let Me Think About It,” and Why Clinical Skill Doesn't Close,” adds useful context for aesthetic-practice professionals. It gives aesthetic-practice teams a practical lens for improving the patient journey, from the first inquiry through a confident next step. Listeners can use the conversation to reflect on their current approach, discuss relevant questions with their team, and identify practical next steps.
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[00:00:14] Introduction & The Presence Gap
Most practice owners are convinced that their growth problem is a lead problem or a pricing problem. But the uncomfortable truth is that most high-ticket cases are lost in the quiet 10 minutes of the consultation, by providers who can inject flawlessly but can't carry a room. Welcome back to the Business of Aesthetics podcast. I'm your host, Don Adeesha. And to help us close the gap between a brilliant clinician and a fully booked one, we're joined by none other than Dr. Mark Tager. Dr. Tager is the CEO of ChangeWell Inc. and the creator of The Art of the Healthcare Presentation, proving that presence is not a personality you're born with. It's a skill you can install. So today we are discussing why the most technically gifted injector is so often the weakest closer. We're going to talk about how to defuse "let me think about it" in real time, and how to carry that same magnetic presence onto the camera, where today's patients are actually deciding. This episode is brought to you by Ekwa Marketing, the growth partner behind this podcast and a trusted resource in the aesthetic community. Dr. Tager, welcome to the podcast.
Thank you so much. My pleasure to be here.
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[00:01:33] They're Not Sold, They're Investigating
Absolutely. So let's start inside the room, Dr. Tager. Picture the patient who already walked in already sold. They'd researched you. They wanted the treatment. Money wasn't really the issue. And they still left without booking. When you replay that consult in slow motion, what's the precise moment the provider lost them?
I'm going to take issue with your terms. They're not already sold. They're investigating and watching and learning and trying to determine whether you are the right person for them to place their faith and trust in. And for me, this comes down to what I call an issue of presence, practitioner presence. Let me take a couple of minutes to go through a model that we use when we think about presence. Presence is different from mindfulness. We hear a lot about mindfulness, which is wonderful. Breathe, let it flow. But in the healthcare setting, you have attention and intention. You have to pay attention to your patient, but you also have an intention. There are a set of skills that you need in order to be a great clinician, and there is passion. Why are you doing this? Well, you have an intention. Now, if your intention is to sell, then that is the wrong intention, because we all know when we're being sold. The real outcome of presence is to light up new possibilities in the minds and hearts of your prospect or your patient. So if you think you're trying to sell them some syringes of filler or a neurotoxin or the latest body shaping treatment, you're making a mistake. What you're trying to do is attend to them, be there, have your intention be lighting up possibilities, and learn the skills of really good listening, of attending to body language, of leaning in, of trying to mirror and relate and have resonance with your patient, have passion for what you're doing, all of this in service of new possibilities for them.
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[00:04:15] Budget vs. Intention: Never Spend the Patient's Wallet for Them
Now, Dr. Tager, staff often blame the cheap patient. How much of this lost moment is actually the patient's budget versus the provider's lack of intention?
Look, there are always budget considerations for people. But I'm amazed how, in the old days, people would come into a practice that took both insurance and cash pay, and they would argue with the receptionist about a 30 or 40 dollar copay, then walk down the hall and spend 2,500 dollars for fillers and neurotoxins. So people prioritize what is important to them. What that says is that you've not made the case to light up the possibilities for them. They do not leave convinced and enthusiastic. They may have issues about your competence. They may get subtle vibes about the quality, from little things like going into the bathroom and seeing it's messy, or seeing the staff stressed out. All of that contributes. That ambience is really important in the cash-pay healthcare setting, particularly in aesthetics. And here's another barrier that comes up: you never want to make decisions with your patient's money. You don't know what's important to them. You don't know what they value. You may think, oh my goodness, 3,000, 3,500 dollars for all of this product. That may feel like a lot to you, but you can't put a price tag on that for your patients. So you never make those decisions. You lay out the options, you lay out the choices, you put forth the possibility, and you let them make an intelligent, informed decision.
That's a very interesting framing. You are not there to make the decision for them, but rather to uncover the possibilities.
Exactly. You don't make decisions with your patient's wallet.
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[00:06:29] Why the Best Injector Isn't Always the Best Closer
Okay. Now, Dr. Tager, you spend your life around technically brilliant injectors, genuinely world-class hands. So why is it so often that the exact same person, the most clinically gifted one in the building, turns out to be the weakest one in the consult chair?

